Support Windows Phone 7

[tsppcapp]

I wish basic4ppc will have new release for supporting Windows Phone 7.

[digitaldon37]

Originally Posted by tsppcapp

I wish basic4ppc will have new release for supporting Windows Phone 7.

+1

I like my new WP7 but miss my B4PPC

[tsppcapp]

If Windows Phone 7 is supported by basic4ppc,

- basic4ppc developers will keep enthusiasm for using basic4ppc
- the application lifetime developed by basic4ppc can last for years more

It is win-win for Anywhere Software company and the basic4ppc developers.

Please build a new release for basic4ppc that support Windows Phone 7 development.

[Gearcam]

WP7 would be so usefull

Then i would definetly go with the android version and WP7 to convert sections of my gear design software for mobile use gearcam.co.uk
Gear C.A.M. Gear Design Software

Is there any plan to do this ?

If so i would continue the Android program and catch up with the WP7 one.
It looks like the code would be pretty much the same.

Regards

Steve

[corwin42]

Originally Posted by tsppcapp

I wish basic4ppc will have new release for supporting Windows Phone 7.

The problem with WP7 is that there is no .NET CF anymore supported on this platform so porting basic4ppc would be a complete rewrite of the software beginning from zero.

I think a even bigger problem is that WP7 only allows applications to be installed over the marketplace. So I don't think that a third party IDE is allowed to install software on a device directly.

I'm glad Erel decided to prefer Android and I think currently there are not much resources free for beginning a WP7 version since there is much to do for the Android version.

[Erel]

A WP7 version is not planned in the near future. Maybe further down the road...

[digitaldon37]

Originally Posted by corwin42

The problem with WP7 is that there is no .NET CF anymore supported on this platform so porting basic4ppc would be a complete rewrite of the software beginning from zero.

I think a even bigger problem is that WP7 only allows applications to be installed over the marketplace. So I don't think that a third party IDE is allowed to install software on a device directly.

I'm glad Erel decided to prefer Android and I think currently there are not much resources free for beginning a WP7 version since there is much to do for the Android version.

Microsoft approved IronRuby.NET for Marketplace, I don't see why they wouldn't approve B4PPC.

[agraham]

The problem is not the IDE, it is in installing and running your own programs generated by the IDE. You can only do this as a developer paying an annual fee of $99. As a developer you can register up to three phones you can use as test devices and obviously can also put your program on the market for download.

Registering as a non-US located developer appears to be a bit of a pain as the process needs an identity check done by some outfit called GeoTrust which can be done electronically by US citizens but seems to have caused some difficulty for people located outside the US though presumably this will get ironed out over time.

Actually Microsoft haven't "approved IronRuby.NET for Marketplace". They have produced a set of libraries for Windows Phone 7 that will interpret IronRuby code at runtime but it must run inside a C# application and the application must still be built with Visual Studio 10.

From Going Places - IronRuby on Windows Phone 7

Another limitation concerns the way new Windows Phone 7 applications are created. Such applications can be created only from Visual Studio and only in C#. This requirement forces developers to write code in C# that initiates the IronRuby code.

The app you linked to is an IronRuby interpreter that can only run scripts written on the device. It does not produce distributable applications.

[digitaldon37]

Originally Posted by agraham

The app you linked to is an IronRuby interpreter that can only run scripts written on the device. It does not produce distributable applications.

That is correct, but it also let's me download and run scripts not written on my device. Isn't that what the B4PPC IDE does on a WinMo device?

I am hoping that Microsoft's support of homebrew will allow me to compile (xap) and install without paying $99 a year, but until that happens I'll settle for a script interpreter. I'd prefer a B4PPC script interpreter but I'm guessing there's not much of a market to make it worth Erel's effort to develop, especially at a price of $9.99 or whatever MS would try to have him sell it for.

[SarahWard]

I agree that Windows7 is a waste of time as far as Anywhere Software is concerned. It is a shame but that also means B4PPC is limited to writing for existing WM5 WM6 phones only. When these are finished then B4PPC is finished too. The market changed to the iPhone finger-touch type operating system and Microsoft had to change with the times.

Android was the correct choice over W7 for Erel. But for all of us who love B4PPC and the WinMo device environment, this change is a sad thing. I have yet to really get to grips with B4Android so I haven't yet purchased the full version. Maybe when I get a cheap enough second-hand Android device it will become more real for me.

In the meantime I think we WM users and code writers have to accept that the world of devices has fundimentally changed and we will have to do the same.

And when we come to make the change away from old WinMobile, I think that Android will seem like a much better option compared with Windows Phone 7 simply because of Basic4Android.