Now go back up a level. That is the starting point. Compare the content at that level. I never use the view you gave, I go straight in from the upper level.
OK sorry if I was a bit hot to start with, but I just found my next project is not possible, see wake up ppc to start alarm. And until my immune system comes back up properly I'm not allowed out unless it's somewhere un-crowded. So I need something to do, and I ain't got anything because of that, so hey ho boredom. I was going to create this thread regardless, but I was already pee-ed off by the time I got to it. Sorry.
When Basic4ppc was created by EREL, we didn't even had a forum in wich to post questions and get help, It was Geotrail who kindly alowed Erel to add and maintain a forum on his domain...Gretting to GeoTrail, we do miss you...Some of us still remember those days..
As Basic4P grew, so did the community and Erel's vision became clearer..
It is in fact a great peace of software...
Yes, perhaps the Site naming was two directional...But it is done...Remember that at that time, there was only WInMo and Palm, available for PDA's....Some weren't even phones yet...
But the market is evergrowing, and Erel, responding to OUR wishes, started the development of Basic4Android...
As in everything that is new, Basic4Android has the focus now, But Basic4Ppc is NOT dead...
The DLL listing is still up to date, as all updates reported to me...
And WE still reply to any question posted there...
Ok, I agree, some degree of separation is indeed needed, BUT I don't see any second class users in the forum... Perhaps in a fisrt forum page, only the two major sub.Forums, should appear, and by doing this, User watching Basic4ppc related posts would not be distracted by the noise being created in the Basic4Android...
But I re-instate, Neither Erel's has given up on B4ppc, Neither it's users and/or "Extra's" developer's like Andrew or me have mooved from B4ppc to B4a permantly....
Sorry but this is what I think, and i agree that the tone used by RacingDog was a bit agressive, though I can understand it, but not the best way to be eard...No-one understands a shout ou loud conversation...
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Now be a new user looking for Basic4PPC. Where does he go? Betcha 99% go to the Home page, it's the obvious place and the one most search engines come up with.
Now, tell me what this new person finds. Tell me what keeps his interest in what he thought he was looking for. Do you really want to say that home page is of any use whatsoever for such a new comer looking to find out what Basic4PPC is all about?
And where do people set bookmarks to? If you have nothing better to do than maintain bookmarks, you set them to lower level pages which change at the site managers whim. If you just want one quick entry point with no hassle, you bookmark the home page. If that home page suddenly has no useful links, you are just as screwed as the "bookmark everything geek" is when things change.
Is that simple enough to be understood? And if you bothered to read the thread you would have seen I have already apologised for the initial post, that should have been sufficient. Perhaps you didn't read that?
Racing Dog is right about the website but he better get used to Basic4Android being the dominant developer platform from here on out.
Almost all the new stuff is going to happen there because Google keeps adding new capabilities to the hardware and OS at the speed of light. That's what Microsoft failed to do and that's why we find ourselves in the position we're in now...
It's not that PPC is so bad, it's just that with no new OS updates from Microsoft, it has hit an impassable wall as far as future features are concerned..
PPC represents the past and Android the future and there will be quite few people like myself who embrace both platforms. I especially like the desktop side of Basic4PPC which is missing in Basic4Android, so I hope that at least that aspect will keep the product moving forward to some degree...
Erel is trying to conserve resources and leverage off the existing site but it's obvious and understandable that some people will find that off-putting.
My vote is that Erel create 2 distinct sites, one for each product, so that users won't get confused, disappointed and conflict with one another. They may fit under one umbrella but there should be no confusion from a user perspective...
I have no objection to anything being "the future", pissing myself laughing that anybody thinks I said that. I just want a reasonable access from the home page, amongst other things that aren't quite right. Like I put in a new thread, relised I was being an idiot and editted it to be a nothing post. Strangely, the thread is shown as appearing in two places, bug reports (what I did) and wish list (which I didn't) so this hasty revision of the site needs to be less hasty.
Let's get another thing straight. I have no interest in future developments. I have only a 1 in 3 chance of making another 4 years and it goes rapidly downhill thereafter. I just want the peace to enjoy what I enjoy. Preparing for the future is pointless. Regulars really ought to have figured that from previous posts. I might get lucky and be haunting you here for a couple of decades, but it is pointless even considering such an outside chance.
Of course, you could simply have a loader page that asks whether you want basic4ppc or basic4android (I see it as the platform logos or something.) Put info in their respective pages and share the forum and forms, etc. It really is easy to do.
Mike
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